題:
將鏈條從雙鏈升級到三鏈,最簡單的方法是什麼?
Zlatty
2015-06-03 00:10:03 UTC
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I have a 2007 Specialized Tarmac Pro Double and I need some better gearing. I am doing more hill climbs and I feel that I need at least two lower gears than I already have. What would be the most efficient way to upgrade my bike. Would it be easy to get a triple chainring? Will I have to get a new derailleur? What else would I need to change?

看了看自行車,但是對你一無所知,你通過減重和加力踩踏板得到了兩個山地齒輪
@andy256太苛刻了。許多強大的賽車手變得緊湊。
@Blam是的,都是正確的:-)
@andy256我不介意減肥,但是在當前設置下,我無法處理11%以上的坡度。
是的,我很輕率,並且確實贊同@Kibbee的回答。
六 答案:
Kibbee
2015-06-03 00:25:28 UTC
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You have a couple different options. I think the cheapest would be to switch to a compact crankset which would change the front chainrings from 52-39 to 50-34. I'm pretty sure you could do this while still using the same shifter. Changing the front shifter is required if you want to go from a double to a triple, as is changing the front derailleur. If you switch to a compact I'm pretty sure you can keep the same derailleur and shifter.

Another thing you'll want to look out for is the rear derailleur. You currently have a short cage derailleur, and you may need a medium or long cage derailleur when you go with a compact crankset.

I don't think a triple should really be necessary on a 10 speed system. I have triple, but I have an 8 speed cassette. I find in that case the triple is nice because you can still get lots of gear range while still keeping the gears close together, However, on a 10 or 11 speed cassette, this isn't really necessary. I think that switch to a compact crankset is a much better option.

Also, according to This post, the maximum cog size of a short cage Shimano short cage is 27 and the total drivetrain capacity is 29. To use a larger cassette, you would have to switch out the rear derailleur. If you used a compact crankset, you should be probably also replace your rear derailler for a medium cage, as your total capacity would be (50-34) + (27-12) = 31. However, if you changed the cassette to a 12-25, you could get away with not replacing the rear derailleur and still getting a little bit lower gearing, although possibly not enough for your needs.

一個緊湊的曲柄的好建議。在幫助了朋友的這一轉變之後,前端仍然可以工作,只需要將其降低一點即可
同樣值得注意的是,短籠式後機甲無法容納三重鏈組,因此也必須進行更換。
謝謝您的徹底回應。似乎我最好的選擇是更換後卡匣,但要從中獲得任何收益,讓中臂撥鏈器最有意義?
您為什麼不只改變曲柄上的鏈輪?它確實很便宜,您不必更改其他任何內容,就可以隨心所欲地變小。例如:http://www.jensonusa.com/Chainrings/SRAM-ForceRivalApex-10-Speed-Chainring。只要小心獲得內徑與您的曲柄相匹配的東西,但是您的商店或在線支持可以為您提供幫助。
Paul H
2015-06-03 00:28:35 UTC
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You'll need to swap out your left (front) shifter and front derailleur to utilize all three chainrings of a triple.

Between the cost of that and the cranks, I think a better option would be to swap out your rear cassette for something with more range. Since you've already got a 12-27 on there, a 12-32 would give you I believe the range you need.

My hunch is that you'd be able to fudge it with your current short cage rear derailleur, but a medium cage mechanism will probably be less hassle in the long run.

Since cassettes are consumables and need to be replaced periodically, this cost of the just rear mechanism is likely significantly less than the shifter, front mechanism, and the crankset.

他還需要更長的籠子後部機械裝置,以可靠地容納三重鏈組。
Ross Millikan
2015-06-03 03:55:15 UTC
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When you say two lower gears, you presumably have 25 and 27 as the largest gears in your cassette. Does that mean 39/31 would be low enough? If so, the compact with a 34 will get you there, but 34/25 will be too high. Shimano makes a 12/30 10speed cassette in the CS4600 line, which I have coupled to a 50/34 compact. You will be in for a new rear derailleur that way. They also make a 11/32 11speed, but that needs new shifter as well. This might avoid the crankset change, however.

我看到了從52x39T到50x34的效果如何。但是,它似乎相當昂貴。無論如何,您推薦什麼品牌,型號?
我沒有品牌推薦。我專注於可以實現的傳動比。三重齒輪可以使您的齒輪非常低,但是會迫使您更換許多設備。您需要定義自己需要多低的檔位,然後才能探索您的選擇。該緊湊型轎車的齒距比當前的鏈輪齒組多兩個,因此您必須注意後撥鏈器的能力。
ShemSeger
2015-06-03 01:34:44 UTC
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我不會三連冠,這是為什麼這些產品逐漸退出市場的原因。如果您要在陡峭的山坡上攀登並希望降低傳動比,可以考慮改換您的卡帶,也許是環,那麼我建議首先嘗試的是將您的卡帶換成山地自行車卡帶,這可能需要您還將後撥鏈器換成長臂撥鏈器,您將需要一條新的鏈條,但是無論如何無論何時更換卡帶,都應該更改它。如果需要更多,請嘗試將小戒指換成較小的戒指。您也可以通過這種方式省錢,因為您不必更換曲柄或變速桿。

“我不會得到三重鏈環,這是有原因的,它們正在逐漸退出市場。”那是...?
@DavidRicherby 10和11速紙盒。即使3x9速自行車問世,在27個齒輪中,也只有14個可用齒輪比。與雙打相比,它們較重,多餘,並且難以維護和調整。我認為1x11優越得多。您只犧牲了3個齒輪比,但是卻減輕了前變速桿和變速器的重量,除了一個鏈環之外,其他所有部件的重量都減少了。
甚至MTB都下降了三倍,許多降到了1x11。
重要的是最終傳動比;如何獲得它並不重要。例如-在26/26的齒輪比下,三重需要緊湊型才能達到34/34,在標準公路雙打時需要39/39。如果需要較低的傳動裝置,則需要更大的卡匣或較小的奶奶。
DanS
2015-06-03 14:23:35 UTC
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When I made this change 15 years ago, as well as the new triple chain rings I needed to change the bottom bracket - cotterless square taper type - (which needed to be longer to correct the chain line), front derallieur (needs to be able to cope with extra travel and larger difference in chainring sizes) and rear derallieur (needs to be able to cope with larger total difference in teeth).

You will also need to change your shifter to use the new range on the front.

+1回答所提出的問題,而不是像其他所有人一樣分成相關但切切的答案。
Zlatty
2015-07-29 21:29:10 UTC
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儘管社區中有很多好的答案,但這全都取決於騎手。作為這種情況下的騎手,正確的答案是要堅強起來,只是增強肌肉來爬坡。自從一個多月前發布此問題以來,我能夠進行足夠的培訓,以適應在較高檔位的陡峭山坡上行駛,從而無需更改組件。感謝大家的幫助,為大家投票!



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